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ColinD


1,259 post(s)
#30-Jun-09 21:14

Following review of the validation results, METI and NASA have decided to jointly release the ASTER GDEM on June 29, 2009. Previously, METI and NASA announced their intent to contribute the ASTER GDEM to the Global Earth Observation System of Systems (GEOSS). Upon release, the ASTER GDEM will be available at no charge to users worldwide via electronic download from ERSDAC and from NASA’s Land Processes Distributed Active Archive Center (LP DAAC) by visiting

http://www.gdem.aster.ersdac.or.jp/

and https://wist.echo.nasa.gov/~wist/api/imswelcome/,

respectively.

This info from another forum.

adaptagis

443 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 01:25

wow! many thanks for the links!

hopefuly I will be able to download it as the server seems to be super busy..

Gustavo Palminha

522 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 02:47

I've also been there also :)

Really nice.

#01-Jul-09 07:10

Yeah, the server is quite busy and even when you have a good connection is kinda tough to work with it, but the data looks good!


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Pat W4 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 13:15

Are the data really downloadble? I ran through the wist.echo.nasa.gov site, signed up and stopped where - apparently - the only option was a request for the data to be sent, presumably on DVD. Likewise on the .jp site, it appears that the data cannot be downloaded.

Has anyone achieved download of extracts of ASTER GDEM data? If so, a link please!

Thanks,

Pat

tjhb
3,112 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 14:43

We've tried too, both sides of the Pacific, and no luck.

ColinD


1,259 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 15:28

This might help....

http://www.gdem.aster.ersdac.or.jp/search.jsp

tjhb
3,112 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 15:49

Have you had a result with that Colin?

We found that it didn't bear fruit yesterday. Search worked, but no delivery.

I think we only tried Firefox for this site, though we tried both IE and Firefox for WIST.

ColinD


1,259 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 16:43

No luck on delivery yet here either (IE)

sitesatlas42 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 19:29

I was able to download the data just fine using the WIST website (https://wist.echo.nasa.gov/api/). The interface is complex and confusing, so the tutorial link at the top of that page is somewhat helpful.

You must create an account before anything else, or it won't work correctly. Once you've done that, logging in is also confusing -- you need to log in first, click the Login button, the page refreshes and then you can complete the rest of the search form (in other words, you can't log in and search at the same time even though they're on the same page).

For the ASTER DEM data, choose ASTER from the Land column, then choose ASTER Global Digital Elevation Model from the list below the heading "Choose Keywords for One or More Categories". To order, they ask for your physical address and it looks as though they're going to send you a CD, but a few minutes after submitting my order, I got an email with an FTP download link. The data I looked at was very good and had no holes or weird artifacts.

One more thing: the interface only works with some browsers, such as IE7, but not Google Chrome.

tjhb
3,112 post(s)
#01-Jul-09 19:54

I found it confusing at first too, but I've used it from time to time and never love the experience but have always managed to make it work (until now).

I get to the last stage on WIST (if I'm lucky) and receive an error saying that the job status can't be changed. (Yes, cookies completely enabled.)

I'm encouraged to know it works for someone, so will keep trying, and check my procedure against your excellent instructions just in case.

johnrobot
287 post(s)
#02-Jul-09 00:15

I have never seen a download procedure as complex as the WIST site. They could have gone for an easy FTP solution, but have for some reason chosen this one instead. Still waiting for my "order" to be processed.

anaximander1 post(s)
#02-Jul-09 19:37

I keep getting 'no granules found' for my search. Is there something specific that needs to be put in for the 'search area' or the 'date/time range'? Its really frustrating. I've tried with different area extents and still get the same thing.

karlnyberg1 post(s)
#08-Jul-09 09:53

Howsabout we collect all the downloaded data in one place, effectively mirroring it and create our own server?

I'd be willing to coordinate if folks want to contribute.

-- Karl --

Nick Verge


2,571 post(s)
#08-Jul-09 12:01

Howsabout we collect all the downloaded data in one place, effectively mirroring it and create our own server?

This would be illegal as it contravenes the licensing conditions under which ASTERGDEM data is provided. Read the terms and conditions of the license.

You dont own ASTERGDEM data, you are granted a license to use the ASTERGDEM data you download. It may not be distributed beyond yourself if for private use, or your organisation.


Dream no small dreams for they have no power to change the minds of men. - After Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

The Fermi paradox restated: "The size of TSMC's wafers, improving 45nm yields and the length of its development period suggests that many examples of functioning high-binning Fermi GPGPUs ought now to exist in the Universe. However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it."

peedro
46 post(s)
#08-Jul-09 20:33

i was able to download from the japan site with no problems, however download is 1 tile at a time.

volker

604 post(s)
#09-Jul-09 00:31

For more infos about the ASTER mission and the datas look here (only german speaking):

http://www.geo.sbg.ac.at/larg/Astertutorial.pdf

Gustavo Palminha

522 post(s)
#09-Jul-09 05:07

I could download any tile at all.

Regards.

pierredp
45 post(s)
#09-Jul-09 11:12

I haven't experienced any problems downloading tiles from the WIST site. So far I've downloaded half of Africa without any problems . I would recommend people to follow SITESATALS's directions on how to use the WIST site as posted earlier in this thread. I agree that the site is not the most intuitive site I've come across (probably the worst) but it does work.

The GDEM site on the otherhand seems to be a dud at least in my opinion. Yes I know one or two lucky ones managed to get something of it but after more than 60 + attempts to to even download 1 file from it I gave up and decided the WIST site with all it's issues seems to be the site of choice because you actually get something from it.

Regards


"Use time and words carefully because neither can be retrieved" - Jackson Brown

pierredp
45 post(s)
#10-Jul-09 03:03

Here is a link to a site that gives a bit more info about the ASTER 30m data itself http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/reviews.html#aster

I have seen quite a bit of the linear artifacts that is mentioned in this article for some of the tiles I've downloaded. Haven't tried to fix them but will look into it in the next couple of days.

Hope this helps


"Use time and words carefully because neither can be retrieved" - Jackson Brown

Nick Verge


2,571 post(s)
#10-Jul-09 03:52

Pierre,

I am inclined to agree with Jonathon Ferranti's analysis. ASTERGDEM data is overrated and its accuracy exaggerated. Another major problem IMV is that the user cannot have confidence in the elevation data for any given point.

What most people do not appear to appreciate is that ASTERGDEM is a realative DEM. In this sense it is not much different from the relative DEMs that can be obtained from Land Processes Distributed Active Archive Center and others.

ASTERGDEM was produced using software developed by the Sensor Information Laboratory Corporation (SILC) of Japan. The software does not allow XYZ ground control points to be used to improve the positional accuracy of the elevation data extracted by auto-stereocorrelation of nadir and along-track oblique view data collected by ASTER. The geo-postional accuracy of the XYZ coordinates that make up the ASTERGDEM dataset is purely a function of knowledge about the velocity, track, position and orientation of the ASTER sensor and the shape of the geoid below, when data collection occured.

It is an improvement on the relative DEM data available previously because it combines elevation data extracted from multiple scenes. This helps suppress spurious elevation values. However, a lot of these spurious elevation values are a result of limitations of the auto-stereocorrelation, which requires that pixel values around any individual pixel in the nadir and oblique view data exhibit sufficient variation in value for coresponding points within each view to be identified accurately. This commonly fails over uniform and high albedo regions, like sand desert snow and ice.

The improvement ASTERGDEM seems to exhibit over relative DEMs available previously, is better XY postional accuracy, and to a lesser degree, better postional accuracy in Z. The former has probably been achieved by making use of confidential information about the satelite postion and motion, or perhaps by better modelling of the information on these in the public domain. The latter seems to have been achieved by merging of data from multiple DEM extractions for the same region, which has the effect of suppressing spurious elevations. However, if stereocorrelation fails because of a no-match being obtained in a nadir and oblique view pair, it is likely to fail in others of the same area, because the physical characteristics of the earth surface commonly remain unchanged.


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