Manifold Community Site: OSM map as linked image

RE: OSM map as linked image

adaptagis — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:05:51 GMT

Hello folks

has anyone an idea whether it is possible to blend in the OSM maps as linked image from the server like Virtual Earth and Yahhoo (unfortunately not Google anymore..)?

RE: OSM map as linked image

petzlux — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:23:39 GMT

Dieter

Unfortunately, someone will need to write (or adapt from the others) a new ISI driver for the OpenStreetMap tile server. I unfortunately dont have the time or expertise to do that, but for someone who knows its way round C# & OSM it should be pretty straigthtforward.

RE: OSM map as linked image

petzlux — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:46:40 GMT

Unfortunately, just replacing the URL for example in the VE Street Map Image server to point to the OSM tile server (tile.openstreetmap.org) doesnt work. As I said, someone with some C# knowledge should find it pretty easy to modify an existing Image Server Source, especially as the projection is the same and tile naming scheme is very similar to VE.

RE: OSM map as linked image

jkelly — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:48:47 GMT

VE uses a quadkey representation to determine and store the tile location. OSM uses a numbering system similar to google maps (or yahoo map), describing the x and y coordinates in the url. If you are going to have a go, I would suggest butchering the yahoo one to get it to work. The numbering system has a different origin for OSM, so the code will have to be changed to reflect this.

I haven't had a chance to have a good look at it, but from looking briefly, I reckon I could do it. It's just a matter of getting time....

RE: OSM map as linked image

mikedufty — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:26:11 GMT

There is a sourceforge project for manifold image server add ins.

one developer only and no activity for 3 years

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mfd-pack/

RE: OSM map as linked image

petzlux — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:36:06 GMT

Thats the sourcecode that manifold are referring too when they talk about "3rd party developed" ISI modules.

RE: OSM map as linked image

petzlux — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:36:38 GMT

JKelly

That would be great, as I dont even have Visual Studio installed here... Waiting patiently :-)

RE: OSM map as linked image

James — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:10:15 GMT

Talking of OSM, we use Manifold extensively to digitise data for OSM, even down to individual buildings and house numbering. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.35115&lon=-0.5965&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF

We're just about to take delivery of an Xplore iX104C4 AllVue Xtreme Tablet to test out with Manifold in the field precisely to collect OSM data like footpaths etc. Having Manifolds 'moving map' capability when coupled to GPS is really neat, and if you have air surveys available to you out in the field it's invaluable for collecting data.

So looking forward to someone with more brains than me coming up with a method of loading OSM tiles into Manifold.

RE: OSM map as linked image

johnrobot — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:14:40 GMT

James,

I would be very interested in your work flow once you have finished your work in Manifold. What is your method of choice for getting the data back into OSM? Nice work, by the way.

RE: OSM map as linked image

James — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:15:59 GMT

At the moment, it's a bit protracted. I use the segmentation tool in Manifold to add loads of segment points along line strings which we've digitised. We then export to shape files. Then I convert the shape files to gpx format using GPS Utility and it's those GPX files that I load into JOSM, the OSM data editor to redigitise. I don't know of any tool that's available to get GIS data loaded straight into JOSM. Hopefully when 9.0 comes out, Manifold will support GPX files so I can cut out the bit with GPS Utility.

When we get the Xplore tablet, for things like footpaths, I'll just get Manifold to create the line work as we walk the footpath network.

RE: OSM map as linked image

petzlux — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:21:10 GMT

Well, the ideal solution would be if Manifold supported the OSM XML format directly, than it would be trivial to load data into JOSM.

RE: OSM map as linked image

johnrobot — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:04:40 GMT

Ah, thanks for that info. I hope that you can cut a few of those steps when v9 arrives. I have written to sales to request import/export support for .osm files as well as direct access read/write. Feel free to do the same, as these features could save a lot of time.

RE: OSM map as linked image

petzlux — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:59:01 GMT

Just found out that apparently Merkaator supports Shapefiles, eg you can import a shapefile and then upload to OSM ! Sounds like it could cut out a lot of steps out of your process!

RE: OSM map as linked image

johnrobot — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:50:40 GMT

I found this Python script as well: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/shp2osm/

RE: OSM map as linked image

Nick Verge — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:00:27 GMT

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.35115&lon=-0.5965&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF

Hey James,

LOL It would seem house builders down in Chobham, have not yet mastered the rightangle? ;-)

RE: OSM map as linked image

James — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:33:16 GMT

Nick, who gives a stuff about right angles!! That's what happens when you digitise in one projection and display it in another projection....distortion. What other map do you know about that gives you building level detail (and house numbers) for free!! Let me know when you complete OSM in your area and we'll compare.

RE: OSM map as linked image

adaptagis — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:14:31 GMT

Hi Kelly

I really aprechiate that you would look into this matter and hope that it won't be a big hassle to do.

I think an OSM link would help many regions particularly in the nondeveloped world to provide far better maps as available from VE and the others. I cross my fingers for you

RE: OSM map as linked image

adaptagis — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:28:57 GMT

hello guys

for thouse who didn't noticed:

please have a look on the wonderful work from Kelly at the following tread for the OSM linked maps dlls..

http://forum.manifold.net/forum/t82208.8